натяжители цепи/фозовращатели
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натяжители цепи/фозовращатели
хотел бы услышать Ваши мнения!Вопрос в продолжение темы viewtopic.php?f=112&t=38092! Последний раз был у электриков,показало ошибку фазовращателя(электрик говорит-механическая)-Поэтому,при резком нажатии в газ она у меня не едет!!Но если нажимать плавно,но уверенно более менее едет!Почитав форум,понял что приводиться в действие под давлением масла,которое идет по каналам в голову и непосредственно к натяжителю!Как писалось ранее,на холодную чутка едет(Я так понимаю потому что масло более густое, натяжитель работает,машина едет)!На горячею,на типтронике,едешь на одной передаче,на повышенных оборотах(тем самым подняв давление в моторе)при этом резко в газ,едет хорошо!Получается что он работает,но давления на натяжитель на малых оборотах не хватает!Поэтому не едет!!Стуков,шелеста нет! Что скажите?! возможны ли мои наблюдения!??
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Re: натяжители цепи/фозовращатели
забудь про фазокрутилки.
сними лог по 20,21,01.
потом по 26,27,211.
потом по 01,91,92. выложи сюда.
лог снимай на принудительно второй передаче с ХХ до отсечки.тупо в пол.
сними лог по 20,21,01.
потом по 26,27,211.
потом по 01,91,92. выложи сюда.
лог снимай на принудительно второй передаче с ХХ до отсечки.тупо в пол.
вообще я добрый,но в мире не найти меня злей.
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Re: натяжители цепи/фозовращатели
Ясно!Сделаю!
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Re: натяжители цепи/фозовращатели
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Re: натяжители цепи/фозовращатели
помимо того что в личку написал. вдумался в написанное тобой в 1 посте.
на хх фазы вообще не регулируются...по достижению оборотов и до определенных оборотов..и только при определенной нагрузке.всегда и везде они крутиться не должны.
на хх фазы вообще не регулируются...по достижению оборотов и до определенных оборотов..и только при определенной нагрузке.всегда и везде они крутиться не должны.
вообще я добрый,но в мире не найти меня злей.
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Re: натяжители цепи/фозовращатели
а Я думаешь понял что нибудь?!
что делать?Подскажи?!Головы разбирать??! из написанного понял,что работают они не всегда.
